4 andro pct reddit. If you have Enclo, you won’t need Nolva as it is better.

4 andro pct reddit Also, what is half life of 4 andro? How long after stack should I run PCT? View community ranking In the Top 10% of largest communities on Reddit. Posted by u/Mundane_Yesterday_23 - 1 vote and 7 comments bonjour j’aurais besoin d’aide, j’ai reçu du 4 andro, et j’ai besoin d’aide pour ma première cure, dosage, pct obligatoire ? 17K subscribers in the SARMs community. Nice yeah I’m looking at Trying it solo just the 4 ANDRO like 3-4 pumps a day appreciate the responses on pct now so have to wait alittle longer Did you use anything for estrogen on cycle I have some arimistane just in case I love how people assume a bunk sarm is a prohormone. With zero evidence. It makes me feel good throughout the cycle, and it jacks my libido up therefore the wife gets some extra dick when I'm on-cycle so she supports my PED use, it's a win/win. I have taken these Prohoromes before in the past and felt great, and was pretty shredded. yup epiandro is supposed to work against on cycle lethargy, so it would have the same purpouse as a test base. After it'd be 20mg nolva for 4 weeks. Gear cream has quite a stack in it 1 andro and 4 if I remember right with some other dhea based prohormones, less harsh on your liver as its skipping the one of the 2 liver Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. I’m almost 3 weeks in on my rad-140 cycle and I was trying to get the Andro cream and even Enclo for a test base but it’s sold out. Any nolvadex is good. Also taking SARMs rather than just pinning test is stupid. Just recently started hearing about transdermals. 8K subscribers in the prohormones community. Basically: transdermals - same cycle support/pct as Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Best PCT HELP! Locked post. Gaming If I had to choose I'd go for Alpha Gainz 1 and 4 andro transdermal (better absorption) or the new latest version of Transdermal 1 Andro mixed with Dermacrine called ICON ONE. Ideally, something like 200-250mg/ week of cyp or enenthate, split into two doses(I. Compounded by the fact it is expensive, making test just an overall better and safer option as a base as i have always been a proponent of 100 to 140mg of test c With that being said (and me being a hypocrite for not getting blood work done recently and saying that), I'd personally avoid the Nolva unless you need it. Yea my bad I sent that wrong. I take my prohormones with: 12oz distilled water 1 Tbsp Olive Oil I also bought some piperine off Amazon (cheap) and will also help absorption. Many people have said Alpha AF will not cut it as a pct so i’m looking for an alternative i can For 4-Andro, Andro the Giant from Hard Rock is one of the best on the market; it’s legit and dosed properly. No issues yet but I went in uneducated now I'm very nervous what I did to my body. Compared to a non-PED baseline, you will feel like a king when you’re in the gym! Starting the 4 andro cream as my test base for a rad and yk cycle Monday so I’ll let you guys know how it goes. A good 4/5lbs post cycle after an 8 week run. If you have Enclo, you won’t need Nolva as it is better. But right around that same time, I figured out how to contact UGLs and get the real shit. One Andro is safer I think, potential for less sides on someone’s first run. For PCT you'll want to take Fenugreek and Ashwagandha because they get luteinizing hormone to tell your testicles to get to work making testosterone again, and of course an estrogen blocker and milk thistle for liver support. The potential 6 week cycle I’m running with 1-Andro @220mg for first 4 , then 440mg for last 2 , I feel that’s a pretty good cycle and you should consider it. Balls are hurting, common side or nah? I can tell you most of us didn't take any test base just worked out hard and had a solid pct. This would be my first attempt at using anything other than creatine, so I'm being pretty cautious. 4 andro test base, rad-140 works well Reply reply 4 Andro pct? upvote Im planning to run a 10-12 weeks rad140 and mk677 cycle with a test base. Don’t expect super significant gains. Or check it out in the app stores Home I have used the 4-Andro cream before. I don’t like 4 Andro for beginners. My problem was Iron mag labs andro 1 and 4 cycle I have been doing research for about 10 months on pro hormones and wanted too know your opinion on the brand “iron mag labs”. It's the closest to test you're gonna come except for pinning. I don't have a test base so most likely ill just suck it up and deal with the suppression. Please. You have 4-DHEA, which is a precursor to the OG 4-androstendiol (not dione), which is then a precursor to testosterone at a rate of 15. I know everyone on here is hardcore MUST take Nolva after all cycles, but I just finished a month of 4/19-nor andro and am PCTing with Arimistane and a natty t-booster and am doing fine. It's not otc here in the US. Then again, its 4 andro with an ester (not really sure about the ester though) to increase its half life, so whatever you know about 4 andro should be the same but ester mean more saturation. It falls into the category of i’ve ran 4 andro as an alternative to a test base. i’ve done it multiple times and my bloodwork has come back perfect after my pct. 6. Have never tried 4 andro, but have done real gear years ago. transdermal formulations are superior because it bypasses the stomach and permits more of the compound to start the two step conversion to test. Reply reply More replies. The gains are definitely coming faster and easier than when I was only taking the 50 mg dhea, most noticeably on bench press and overhead press, but I'm almost 36 so I might already have naturally low testosterone. my bloods Our comprehensive guide covers essential aspects of prohormone use to aid in this journey, from common compounds to stacking strategies, potential side effects, and the critical I was under the impression that 4-Andro isn’t that amazing by itself, but works as a good test base for other pro hormones. PCT question: HTP 1-test and sustanon PCT I’m taking Estrogenex 2nd Gen is a good natural estrogen blocker and test booster with EPI-Andro and I ingredients. I also believe that dosage is low especially if it’s taken orally. I have heard of people not using or needing a PCT and i know its madness to RUN an AI on sarms because an AI is not needed!MY question is what is a good pct Raloxifene,Clomid or Nolvadex?I am goint to be taking DIM and creatine with I disagree you won’t keep much at all you’ll build some muscle Suew but test is better even if it’s just a little even hcg can be used as test base these things are much worse for you when you don’t have 80-90 percent of everything else that’s not estrogen. as far as dosage, idk. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS Best 4-andro to run with HTP 1-testosterone? 8 week cycle. Just finished last one and did PCT after each one. but you'll need Nolvadex or clomid pct for sure then Basically PCT is supposed to naturally boost you T and levels to normal the ingredient on. If you have and or can get real enclomphine that’s the best most legit way to bring u back quick . Right now, the dosage is 130mg of 1-DHEA (Blackstone Labs Chosen1) and Androsterone (150mg) 1 androstene-3b-ol,17-one (50mg) 4 androstene-3b-ol,17-one (50mg) Arimistane (50mg) Research suggests that a decent amount of 4 Andro is around 400mg daily. I did read 4-andro converts directly into test making it a optional test base. Reply reply [deleted] • Check reddit ssrmsourcetalk or steroids where to find pct. 4-andro with Rad 140 . gonna do 6 weeks of 1-andro (Super Mandro by Hard Rock supps) 330mg ed and 4-andro (Andro the giant by Hard Rock supps) Personally I’d run tbol at 50 throughout rather than tapering up and down. do they all complement eachother or am i asking for trouble Yeah i rate Dermacrine and used it on my previous Rad cycle. I notice my estrogen creeps up pretty good after 2 weeks. i take 4 caps with s23 and it keeps me making gains and feeling good. A ridiculous dose of 4 andro is no worse than a shot of test other than the wallet hurting. I also used it with a 1 and 4 andro cycle which actually surprised me as I blew up big time way more than the Rad and literally hardly any sides. Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog be suppressive. rad140+dermacrine+epiandro or just rad140+dermacrine works At this stage and with Ostarine solo, using a SERM (starting now and not just in PCT) could be the better option If you were using stronger compounds then a replacement dose coming from 4 Andro conversion would be the best alternative to an actual TRT dose of Test (which of course would be optimal). I'm currently in my first prohormone cycle and I'm taking 130mg 4-andro aka 4-dhea with 50 mg dhea aka 5-dhea. Or check it out in the app stores Andro since it turns into test or a sarm like lgd or rad. Share You have to treat any 4-andro product the same way you would treat testosterone, because that's what it turns into. What Is It? 1-Andro is a legal pro hormone that gets converted to the active steroid 1-Testosterone. Also, the amounts per would be 110mg of 1-andro, 150mg of 4 Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog Careers Press. I wouldn’t expect any sexual side affects as long as your estrogen is managed correctly. Here is a list of pros and cons (Enclomiphene PCT vs Enclomiphene throughout cycle). you gain over 10lbs of lean tissue, and it’s extremely suppressive. I’ll keep that in mind and i’ll adjust yes you can do this. Nolva isn’t without its side effects and from what I hear from my communities, Enclo is the preferred SERM. reReddit: Top posts of July 13, 2022. IML 4-Andro has been my go-to test base, 2 pumps AM/PM starting week 5. So far so good Well its a new one, so you will have to take what the company or sellers says about it. Ive honestly have seen stronger results with RAD-140 than Epi-Andro, Decabolin (19-Nor-andro), and 1,4-Andro. Make sure to do your 23 and But personally, I get the best results when I run IML 1-andro cream along with htp 1-testosterone AND blackstone labs Chosen1. You should try 3-Epi-Andro as a beginner. Its his first cycle. You shouldn’t need an AI at all but definitely keep it on hand and only use it if you are feeling super puffy/boated; a fair about of bloat is normal and fine. Ordered a pct from blackstone but i dont feel like its a proper pct in any format. It’s a DHEA derivative that converts to Test when in the body (Hence why some have tried it, including myself, as a bit of an oral test base). PCT with SERM. Don’t waste your time and LOTS of money on these like I did. Or check it out in the app stores   H-drol is meant to be slightly more anabolic to androgenic ratio than mecha so you might want to stack with epi-andro as a test base to really get the most from it mood and energy wise if that's your thing. I felt amazing on it and it's cheaper. A Place to talk about SARMs (Selective androgen receptor modulator) like LGD4033, RAD140, Ostarine, S4, S2 Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Kinda thinking on removing the 19-nor and just running 1/4 andro. Start it 2 weeks before the end of your cycle and run it for Also was wondering what the most optimal and best PCT for an andro stack like this to reduce chances of sides like Gyno, testicular atrophy and hair loss. Gonna take 100 mg a day for 700 on the weak I hope that can convert to 200 mg of testosterone a week or maybe a little under since it’s the cream and it’s suppose to be more bio available than the oral. Tudca Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Or check it out in the app stores Home; Popular; TOPICS. I’d honestly rather take Tbol than LGD. You can find sources for 1 andro and 4 andro on this forum. Thinking about running the 6 weeks of lgd 4033 with 200mg 4 andro, and then running the rad for another 6 weeks. Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog Careers Press. 4 andro shouldn’t be used as a trt substitution. I was thinking about 4 andro cream but ive heard some people say enclo is better for test base. He wants to do 6 weeks of 4-andro/R-Andro at 50/100mg for 6 weeks plus dbol 25mg for 6 weeks (starting low and working up of course). Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS PCT Nolvadex 40mg/day for 2 weeks 20mg/day for 2-4 weeks and 4-andro stack experience. Or check it out in the app stores   4 Andro pct? upvote Epi andro side effects comments. steel is actually pretty good as a PCT as it’s all natural and herbal. if u do 8 weeks pct with that stuff 4 weeks and the next 4 use whatever natty stuff u like . Hey guys, So I’m 31, 5’11” 193 and around 16% bf. 3 weeks into low dose cycle 1-andro 4-andro stack. Yeah solo 1 ANDRO with high tech which is 220 a day isn’t that bad and there pct stuff will bring you back. I told him to get labs too. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS Androdiol 4-Andro from Hi-Tech as a test base? LOL is there anything other than actual test that's even worth it or should I just cycle and PCT with Nolva if necessary after bloods? For the vast majority of men, the 4-andro in Androdiol is dosed way too low for that to be an issue. NO SOURCING Yes 4 andro works well to boost test the 4andro cream works even better!! You could take 4ando on and off and take dhea and pregnenalone year around to boost test level I have for the past few years!!! 4andro works best at 300mg although you can take 225mg and still feel a difference if you only take 75mg you won't feel much so you must take higher dosage!! Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now What do people think about running LGD/RAD 5mg/10mg + YK11 5-10mg + 4-Andro 150mg for 6 weeks then PCT with Nolva. Not worth it at all. 4-Andro is not the product you have. I’ve purchased some 4-Andro cream and want to use this as a base with a SARM end of February. I don’t think you will find user reviews yet. Internet Culture (Viral) I am going to start a cardarine/ostarine cycle and I have a combo pct of Transdermal (Arimistane + 4-Andro + Enclomiphene + 5a-Hydroxy Laxogenin). Hexman359 • Personally I prefer enclomiphene or Clomid for my PCT. These hormonal precursors have no percentage conversion rate because it is dependent on your body some bodies may convert at a 20 percent rate while yours converts at 7 percent. A sub for asking questions and sharing information on prohormones and designer steroids. What's the goal? Cycle length? PCT wise an OTC PCT will probably be fine but it never hurts to have a SERM on standby just in case. rad 140+ 4-andro + epiandro even better. 76% For the vast majority of men, the 4-andro in Androdiol is dosed way too low for that to be an issue. You should be fine given the fact you’re using 4 andro ontop of 1 andro. Their PCT is called alpha-af and is supposed to be awesome and I plan on taking that after. I agree There is much better stuff out there to take rather than these, but they come with little sides. Did you end up finding a good 4 andro, hi techs has laxogenin in it which is supposed to Or add 4 andro to the 1 andro and then start pct after. Just Steel epi Andro. I have seen great things such as it having an AI in the bottle and it’s not methylated. 1K subscribers in the prohormones community. I am wondering if this cycle would work well, whether it’s hair safe and what my pct protocol should look like. If I was going to run the cycle you propose, I would do start 4 Andro from week 1-8. Th last 2 are technically the same compound, the transdermal cream just has a higher conversion rate than the oral, this stack is just an attempt to get to a dosage similar to a cycle of 1-test cyp Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS Have a PCT lined up. If you’ve taken pro hormones, (1-andro, 4-andro, epi-andro) you know they DO work, and really dont cause anything more suppressive than a sarm. I plan to run Proviron, Zinc, Cialis in place of an AI Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. u just want time on to equals time off Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. If you’re assuming they’re using the old style pro hormones in place of a sarm, how dumb. eats well and does a PCT, he 1-Andro. I know there is a lot of speculation as to the efficacy of DHEA when taken orally. This will require either pinning test or using a 4-Andro throughout the cycle, then The company that sells "Superdrol" now is really selling a blend of 4-andro, 1-andro, DHEA, an estrogen blocker, and some other stuff that's supposed to help build muscle. At the end of the day, I was “afraid” of the actual prohormones, but now I’m planning a cycle with em. 1-Andro goes through a two step conversion to get to the target hormone, 1-Test. IML's Super 4-Andro cream is often said to work well as a testosterone base if you combine it with other drugs, but most people say that you will need to double the recommended daily dosage in order to get real steroid like effects if you're taking it alone. Reddit . Think of 4 Andro as a cycle enhancer because 4 Andro needs its own PCT. but again 1 ANDRO solo isn’t that suppressive . 19 nor is a stacking compound. Gonna add in 1 andro weeks 5-8 from steel supps. For PCT you'll want to take Fenugreek and Ashwagandha because they get luteinizing i am gonna start my first PH cycle in mid july. Gaming I'd do 1 and 4 andro or 1 andro, epi andro and 4 andro in a tri stack. NO SOURCING Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Internet Culture (Viral) Amazing 8th Week = 200mg 3-Epi & 200mg 4-Andro 9th Week = Starting PCT (for high E) 4 andro is too close to DHEA and therefore escaped DASCA. Reply reply virgindragonslayer • I’ve ran 1 and 4 andro for 8 weeks before so I definitely agree with your statement. it is ILLEGAL here in Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. So in the past i have been critical of 4 andro as a viable test base because of the liver toxicity and low conversion rate to actual test requiring large doses multiple times daily. i think a test base is better than 4 andro but 4 andro does work. Think of it like car insurance - you don't This was my experience with 1-andro from HTP, the dose was 330mg a day for most of the cycle and 440mg the last few weeks (330mg: 110mg in the morning, 110mg in the afternoon and 110mg at night) 440mg: (110mg in the morning 220mg in the Varies on the person but 4 andro will convert a good amount into estrogen so having an AI on hand is a good idea. Again that dosage is low. Hard Rock’s 1-Andro product (Super Mandro) is similar and way stronger than Hi Tech. I was so excited when I discovered androtest bc back in the day, all I had access to was 4 andro. Benching 145lbs, 80lbs bicep curls, 270lbs leg press. Internet Culture (Viral) Amazing 8th Week = 200mg 3-Epi & 200mg 4-Andro 9th Week = Starting PCT (for high E) Pre-bloodwork JAN 9th Post-bloodwork MARCH 2Oth (week after ending cycle) Starting weight 182lbs Epi Andro side effects Did 4 4 week cycles total in calendar year. 4-andro and 1-andro metabolize into testosterone and 1-testosterone respectively and can be plenty effective if dosed and stacked properly. I’d def run the 4 andro with the 1 andro the entire time. I price shopped and found that price to qualify ratio Narrows Labs had one of the best price points for 4andro. 4-Andro. Clomid for 4 weeks imo. Only taking 4-Andro is like taking low dosages of testosterone because it has such a low conversion rate (like say you’re taking 100mg a day, only about 10% actually ends up as testosterone in your system, so it would be proportional to only 70mg a week of But really curious on what sort of pct is required afterwards. Posted by u/dbradley72 - No votes and no comments I'm considering running a stack of Epi-Andro and 1-DHEA together for four weeks. It is dirty so don't drink a sip of alchohol on it. e. It is is too expensive to reach an effective oral dos. so this is pretty underdosed from a research standpoint. I had a bad experience my last cycle and a friend recommended steel supps and told me the 1,4 Andro stack did wonders for him. Theres better options to spend your money on. Have a very high metabolism which makes gaining weight pretty hard for me (tried creative etc but no major effect, hence now planning my first pro hormone cycle). Or check it out in the app stores AND sarms. Reply reply [deleted] • If you stop the 1 andro now at 3 weeks you probably dont need a real pct. Lgd and Rad initially gave me better gains but it was water/glycogen and again was left with 3/4 lbs after an 8week cycle but bloods were far worse than the Andros. I have about 15 years training experience and have used multiple sarm cycles. Share Add a Comment. What Is It? 4- Andro is similar to 1-Andro, in that they both go through a two step conversion to become the target hormone. rad140 + 4andro is a good stack. I also wouldn’t run either of these without a test base or you’ll have crippling lethargy. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS I've take decabolin stacked with anavar and pct novadex and had a great run. Top Posts Reddit . No Nac. I ran Epi andro @1000mg for 6 weeks, and 1-Andro @220mg. It is basically similar to doing a small cycle of Testosterone. I have 4 andro rn for a base and I plan on using Enclo for pct. i’d recommend an actual test base over 4 andro but yes, 4 andro will work. Sort by: Best. . I’m planning on possibly doing a cycle with 4 andro S4 Mk 677 and Carderine. If I am to get hit with side effects would they have started or Have been lifting ~4 times/week for 4 years consistently. Starting a LGD and 4-Andro cycle in a couple weeks and just wondering whether nolva or clomid would be best? Androdiol- starting 4 weeks into lgd Trust me, by week 4 you’ll be counting down the days until you’re done. I’d Just take TBOL 8 weeks , 40mg. Got SUB Par results. Some people react better than others i guess. Posted by u/camaniac01 - 6 votes and 10 comments Have 4 andro, lgd, and rad 140 on hand. However, You can run it up to 12 weeks. Even if you aren't using "steroids" it's solid information from people who know their shit. Go androtest bro. Back then I was a dumbass who didn’t run pct either 🤣 Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Def no Ostarine in PCT, and probably run Msten at min of 6 weeks. My advice is go for it but at least hop on a serm on cycle. High test and libido throughout cycle No suppression side effects Acts as a powerful test base Overall good feeling PCT (unlike clomiphene) Yes, 4-Andro is technically considered a pro hormone. These are just tweaks I’d make though bro, generally looks ok (aside from the The compound called 4-Andro (4-DHEA) is a synthetic non-methylated prohormone with a high metabolic rate that can serve as an additive to 1-Andro. Tho I could be wrong Dosage looks too low, I'd run it at 3 or 4 times that much personally. Enclomiphene throughout cycle (pros): Offsets suppression which in turn eradicates the need for a PCT. Thoughts? Have AI's and PCT on hand. The cost and dosage amount needed for 4 andro ain't worth it man. Good start on the oncycle ancillaries 4-ANDRO, also known as 4-DHEA or 4-Dehydroepiandrosterone, is a prohormone that converts into the powerful hormone testosterone in the body. Best PCT for Hi-Tech pharmacy Anavar? 1-Andro and 4-Andro are a great combo but consider adding their 1,4-Andro (equibolin) as well. Or check it out in the app stores Home; Popular; TOPICS Weeks 2- 8 weeks 150 4 andro 500 epi andro PCT uk question upvote Top Posts Reddit . 500mg tudca for last 4 weeks on cycle and continued for 4 weeks during my pct. Androtest is legit though. The common misconception is the dosing of the andro itself given that it’s only 65MG (taken twice daily) and the common intake is around 200MG-300MG however I heard solid feedback. Wondering what people think about the new prohormones such as 4 Andro and 1 Andro. But 4 andro and 1andro work great together. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS. Make sure to drink tons of water Reply Taking 4 Andro rather than just pinning test is stupid. 4 Andro pct? upvote Man this would be a good first cycle to get your toes wet. if you have the money for it sure. Does this require PCT, HCG on cycle etc? Effectively what is best practise & how suppressive is this prohormone. reReddit: Top posts of July 15, 2021 Reddit iOS Reddit Android Reddit Premium About Reddit Advertise Blog Careers Press. Or check it out in the app stores     TOPICS I was gonna run just the 1 & 4 Andro stack at 330 mg each a day for 6 weeks, but then thoughtcan i throw in the 19 Nor Dhea as well at around 200 mg a day. Have done Lgd 10mg, Rad 140 20 mg and 1 and 4 Andro previously and I'd say for gains Vs sides 1/4 Andro was better. pin 100-125mg every Wednesday and Sunday). Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. You probably should go to the steroids sub reddit and read the pct part of the wiki. Haven't been able to find much on them, can anyone speak to any differences or similarities as far as PCT and cycle support goes? From what I've read the intent is to bypass the liver, but was curious to learn more and possibly give them a try. Gaming Not bad. rad140 is a dry compound so you could add 4-andro or dermacrine for some aswell or you might get dry joints or low E sides. Lots of folks also like the topical creams by IML and they are easier on the liver, too. Open comment Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now I am going to be Running LGD+Mk667 and 4-Andro. New comments cannot be posted. Can I use 6. Trust me. 25 enclo every day for test base? Fucking nothing at all. it works perfectly fine if you don’t want to inject test. Gaming Super 4 andro cream from IML? PCT recommendations upvotes That's more than enough for pct. apizibr iuqtq rckgn jaocdaf wjgio qjewdca bcmaf zupvkh qyfrz soldkg jzizd jhindc zuel phbmlbv nsb