Lilypad pcsx2 keyboard Currently the most functional PS2 Pad Plugin, created by ChickenLiver. Yes, you can do that in LilyPad. The default PCSX2 1. I looked up a couple of tutorials on Youtube but their options were a bit different (earlier versions of How to set up a controller for PCSX2 for the latest versionlink for d-pad and sensitivity clearup: http://youtu. All joking aside though, now that I've tried it PCSX2 is the best sixth generation console emulator that I've found No, alt key works fine here. (05-08-2020, 05:53 PM) YuriNator557 Wrote: Looks like that worked, thanks mate. ok thanks now it is working. Also make sure you're using lilypad in both controller one and two slots in PCSX2's configuration I am having the same problem and tried all the settings bositman said. net 4. Run pcsx2 and go to the lilypad settings 4. 12-27-2018, 07:26 AM. So for example: I configured key A on "PAD 1" As "SQUARE" and then i also Configured key A on "PAD 2" As "SQUARE" too but the result is that the Key A on "PAD 1" is being replaced on the Key A on "PAD 2". :: PCSX2 Forums ::. 1 installed and working was a pain at first until I figured out (using lilypad svn 0. Keyboards / mice / DirectInput / XInput/ direct DualShock 3 connections are all supported. 0) r5282. More specifically, I'm trying to setup the buttons of my PS2 controller which is connected to my PC through a PSX/PS2 to USB adapter. No, alt key works fine here. dll". I'm using a PS3 controller with ds3tool drivers installed, but with BetterDS3 on PCSX2 profile. Hi there, I'm having some troubles when assigning buttons in LilyPad in order to use it with PCSX2 emulator. I am trying to utilize t. › Plugins › Plugin (lilypad plugin) Threaded Mode. 6. 368 Threads: 405 Joined: Aug 2005 Reputation: 555 Location: England #12. I want to play using my keyboard, I configured the Pad1 settings, and it shows the keys are properly registered like I set them to. can someone give me a step by step procedure? Hello There, Guest! Login Register : Register: PCSX2 Site: Forums: Member List: View Today's Posts: Search. As of December 2010 the current version is 0. And the fun was through Lilypad you could discover all of this and decide on the best DS2 sensitivity setting for each button. 9. So when I press the "Quick Setup" button,lilypad is waiting for "Select" but when I press anything to set that button,I see that it is setting the select button,goes to the next button to set,set it Hey guys - I'm having issues mapping my keyboard in Lilypad. 00. Neverthless, when I try to assign buttons, LilyPad just assigns the value "axis 6" to the button I'm assigning before I can (02-15-2016, 07:48 AM) christullo Wrote: I have Windows 10 and an Xbox one controller, and I can't get the thing to work right in PCSX2. Member List; Help; Hello There, Guest! Login Register A little question and request for pcsx0. Member List; Help; Hello There, Guest! Login Register : Register: PCSX2 Site: Forums: Member List: View Today's Posts: Search . sakash Wrote: are you using lilypad plugin for controllers if not, try using lilly pad and assigning the values for dpad and at keyboard api choose windows messaging that helps some issues. When using a keyboard it's easy to set up several keys for the same button and give all of 'em different sensitivity settings. This one has proved very popular providing support for keyboard, mouse, gamepads, xbox360 It's probably possible to play them on keyboard just fine, but I don't think it would be half as enjoyable;p. The most popular two psx emulators don't use pad plugins and LilyPad is Um sure though it's pretty much all there, I was helping them set up the plugins, when they got to binding controls to the keyboard, they would click a button to bind to, but none of the keys would register. 4. I am playing with keyboard and mouse settings (as I remember from PC version of the game), so I am also asking what are the best controls settings for RTCW with full (or full Hey, I 'm sorry but I have a stupid problem and I have really no idea about the solution . Currently the most functional PS2 Pad Plugin, created by ChickenLiver. 0 and one at 0. When you Question: How do I use my mouse with LilyPad for a Emulation. in the controller settings under Mouse and Keyboard API choose Raw Input (ignore the recommended settings) . need help Use Lilypad as you PAD plugin and make sure you know the game's controls. Been trying to get the emu working with just a keyboard and 2 player arcade sets via I-pac, for both analog and digital pad games. Member List; Help; Hello There, Guest! Login Register after extract Documents\PCSX2\inis_1. Lilypad. To perform a 'charge kick', I need to press and hold 'cross' when holding R1. Make sure to try that, kids! Happy 2015!!! Hi folks! my keyboard profile is not working through LilyPad either, and the controller does work using the "base" gamepad plugin in the emulator. Give SSSPSXPad Plugin a try. 0 with my keyboard and I actually need a hand: is there a way to bind the R-stick commands so that my keyboard can emulate a complete clockwise rotation? trying to use lulu's overdrive (turbo) but nothing seems to work up till now. 0 shoots. It is only configuring with mouse. how to select lilypad? (07-11-2013, 11:28 AM) beyondthesun Wrote: This is interesting, the aiming with the rifles without shooting actually works this way with keyboard The button set to 0. 11. 0 / Twinpad 0. 0 and is fully working. Furthermore, a . remove any other ticks from this page . My settings are all still default: I tried changing pad 1 from Dualshock 2 to keyboard, but the options are only Dualshock, Guitar, or Unplugged. but still i get the message "dualshock 2 analog controller not inserted in port 1". 5: Adjusted RawAPI mode to work better with Lilypad's RawAPI keyboard capture (again). Even after "disable" the mouse, WM Keyboard not show in PAD1 or PAD2. What a noobish mistake. The most popular two psx emulators don't use pad plugins and LilyPad is Plugins: Lilypad 0. They fire after the button release, and I guess there is no option to set this in Lilypad. "Local volume control" uses Vista's per-app volume control to use volume control keyboard buttons or wheels to affect PCSX2's volume only. 0 EDIT: i also noticed in lilypad's device diagnostics it states "ignore keyboard" this could be the problem but i dont know how to change it. Posts: 7 Threads: 1 Joined: Aug 2013 Reputation: 1 #4. I have tried WM, RAW, DX etc. Member List; Help; Hello There, Guest! Login Register : Register: PCSX2 Site: Forums: Member List: View Today's Posts I am using an usb keyboard, but looking for advice on Lilypad 0. say, DirectInput. Playable. When I change to opened plugin, only the directional keys work the res. Now if only PCSX2 would support ps1 games. 5 aims, the other set to 1. Ok,thanks to everyone I finally get the pcsx2 going but now I want to know if there's optimal bindings setting for using keyboard and mouse with this. 7. For a full list of currently supported keyboard shortcuts, you can refer to this article or check page 4 of the PCSX2 readme. You must set a keyboard API other than disabled if you want PCSX2/GS hotkeys to work. Thanks so much for the help! EDIT: Argh! I never realized this, but my bindings keep overwriting each other! I am using the latest beta and it happens while trying to set buttons for the gamepad or the keyboard. 1 that comes with the latest PCSX2 builds. PCSX2 also supports overriding the hotkeys set by using a custom made ini file Well, I try to select Lilypad in the plugins list but I cannot open a settings dialog for Lilypad. Further Detail: I am running PCSX2 1. Change you Keyboard API in lilypad PCSX2: r4832 LilyPad: r4797 Game: God of War II NTSC-U This is the first time I actually play God of War II on a PC, and the first time by keyboard instead of a gamepad. Not sure why I didn't do this to begin with. However, this doesn't appear to support analog, which is the Here's how to set up keyboard controllers on PCSX2: Configure Controls Using LilyPad. Older post. IMHO the default layout is So I generally play PCSX2 using a controller, but sometimes I'll want to use keyboard (for games like JRPGs that can easily be played with just a controller). PCSX2 and Lilypad showed the ability to emulate the button press intervals of the DS2 on a PC gamepad. In example, click the "Cross" button, then press the Spacebar. 4: 4: TwinPad Keyboard plugin 0 LilyPad is a Windows gamepad plugin for the PCSX2 emulator. Users browsing this forum: 1 Guest(s) Forums in 'Downloads' Forum: Threads: Posts: Last Post: Program. Plugins Hello all, looking for advice on Lilypad 0. 0 v0. and re-configure your keys in PAD1. Edit this page. Here is the dilenma I have been trying to solve for years and have never found on answer on the Pcsx2 forums: I need to set up the control layout so that the w,a,s,d keys are assigned to the left stick with half-sensitivity, and then have Shift+w,a,s,d assigned to In lilypad, disable logging and XInput, Then set Keyboard API to Direct Input and remap your keys. Here's how to remap an looking for advice on Lilypad 0. This was with the latest release of lilypad. both through a ps/2 or usb connection. Granted i didnt have it on (as its wireless) when i took the screenshot. (05-20-2020, 09:01 PM) tieknots Wrote: Hi! I recently downloaded PCSX2. I Tried What you said but it didnt work so idk what to do and i cant play Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix with out the keyboard or mouse I run Win7 64 so getting libusb 0. The Sony PlayStation 2 emulator, PCSX2, has made it possible to play the PS2 games that you purchase through Sony, or at a retail store, directly from your computer. iviv I have looked through the lilypad documentation and still can't figure out how to setup lilypad to work with dirge of cerberus. Click on a button for one of the PS2 conrtols, followed by pressing the key you would like to use as that PS2 control. I am playing Kingdom Hearts (NTSC-U) [SLUS-20370]. also tried running as admin but still same issue. can I am using lillipad on my emulator yet my keyboard is not working. Posts: 8. 030 The version of PCSX2 you are using. 0, and twinpad: PadWinK mod 0. Game in background is tmore. When I use the lilypad plugin, nothing works. LilyPad is a Windows gamepad plugin for the PCSX2 emulator. The Spacebar will not be usable (04-01-2012, 08:49 AM) recoder Wrote: Open PCSX2. hmm. 9 / SSSPSX PAD Plugin Pressure Mod 1. Newer post. The most popular two psx emulators don't use pad plugins and LilyPad is really aimed at use with PCSX2 anyways so the dll will not be renamed, to minimize confusion. In my case, I am trying to get the keyboard to simply work. The only thing that responds is in DX mode. Saat mengonfigurasi pengaturan setelah pemasangan program, Anda bisa memilih antara plugin masukan (input) LilyPad atau Pokopom untuk mengatur As far as I know, you just run the PCSX2 until you got to the main menu, then in the menu bar choose Config > Gamepad Settings, it should automatically pick your keyboard up as Gamepad. i'm playing FFX on pcsx2 using lilypad 0. First I think it will be easier to find the problem by saying this first. oh well, can't have everything yet now can we. It supports multiple GameFAQ Saves to PCSX2 Memory Card. 1; This is arguably the most advanced PAD plugin for PCSX2. It just seems like i can't get the game window to capture The LilyPad interface used to map your controller or keyboard to the virtual PS2 pads is not well documented and confusingly laid out. It's probably sending non hello, I own a mac running ubuntu, and under ubuntu I successfully installed pcsx2. Use Lilypad as you PAD plugin and make sure you know After sucessfull installation of setup (with default lilypad 0. I'm not sure if I have to have a controller as well or what. Core i5 3570k -- Geforce Users browsing this forum: 1 Guest(s) Mark this forum read. Tags: devblog. Change the hotkey mappings in PCSX2 to no longer include any of the keyboard keys that Steam is remapping your controller to. So it is as I have one configured controller (my dualshock pad). Whenever i use pcsx2 I added my ps3 controller to my pc and try to activate the PS-Button in Lilypad to ESC my pcsx2. 0904 (DirectX 9. Core i5 3570k -- Geforce GTX 670 -- Windows 7 x64 LilyPad is a Windows gamepad plugin for the PCSX2 emulator. I have looked into others' issues and seems most people are trying to use a keyboard to emulate the gamepads. Go to the controller configuration for your current plugin (should be Lilypad) here: Config -> Controllers (PAD) -> Plugin Settings Then, go to the Pad 1 tab. 0 Windows Binar 05-07-2020, 08:43 AM by lightningterror: Plugins. CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Mobo : Asus PRIME B450-PLUS GPU : NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 RAM : 16 Go I'm vista home premium, it's crashed too. Thanks, sounds like a plan. These days, LilyPad comes preinstalled with the emulator and you can access it by going to the Config menu LilyPad supports multiple different inputs including a keyboard and mouse, an Xbox 360 controller, PS2 and PS3 controllers, and many other 3rd controllers. In a fighting game if I want to play on a keyboard, can I create a single keyboard trigger to activate D-pad up and D-pad down at the same time for example ? PCSX2 Site: Forums: Member List: View Today's Posts: Search. It supports multiple devices of all types, and devices of different types can be mixed Configuring keyboard controls for the PCSX2 emulator is critical to improving your gaming experience. Reply. You can do it by binding right stick to the mouse. Uhm, show us your current configuration to see if anything is off, I'd suggest you use the Lilypad plugin and dont forget to configure both the d-pad and analog sticks as some games need them. Works for me. I have tried manually mapping as well as downloading some lillipad gamer config but it does not work either. 8: 64bit support If you really need to use two different pad plugins for some reason, and one is LilyPad, disable LilyPad's keyboard handling so that the F-keys, used to control the emulator, don't behave as if you always press them twice. Graphics Synthesizer Gpus And Dual Cores. Is there any possibility to do this as I cant find such setting? Otherwise, when I hit the button my xbox driver appears with a help window (I installed my ps3-controller with this driver) can I somehow add the ESC-function on this way? Lilypad just reads any keyboard . ). Here,the (10-06-2012, 02:03 PM) Kumapon Wrote: I already Pressed the "PAD 2" but whenever i press the same key as the one on "PAD 1", It always replace the one before. vsub Posting Freak. Other code changes. This one has proved very popular providing support for keyboard, mouse, gamepads, xbox360 controllers,PS3 Dual Sock 3 and multitap! However I have a small situation that I cannot resolve. Just don't LilyPad is a Windows gamepad plugin for the PCSX2 emulator. The handguns are the only one that works differently it seems. Now I can't get any of the keys on my laptop keyboard to do anything. Using LilyPad (0. ini file doesn't appear in the /inis_1. Thank You. Enable XInput if it's not and you will see that the XInput 0 is already configuredjust hit ok,don't try to configure it Set it to keyboard and set your keys and once you are done,set it to "Allow all devices" Edit:Actually that "Allow all devices" menu is part of newer version of lilypad which is part of pcsx2 1. V0. The way certain PS2 games were designed had a wide range of actions built into each pressure sensitive button increment. It is written by the plugin author ChickenLiver[1] who keeps the official thread updated with the most recent version of the plugin. 0, downloaded today from the website's "stable" download. Solarstorm Member. CrescentGames Newbie. Change the keyboard mappings for your controller in Steam. Pad 1 was originally my keyboard shortcuts, but I wiped those after I assigned controller bindings on pad 2. This one has proved very popular providing support for As far as I know, you just run the PCSX2 until you got to the main menu, then in the menu bar choose Config > Gamepad Settings, it should automatically pick your keyboard up as Gamepad. Any non default settings you are using. 2. > Plugins > Plugin discussion and support > need help configuring mouse keyboard for dirge of cerberus (lilypad plugin) Full Version: need help configuring mouse keyboard for dirge of cerberus I have looked through the lilypad documentation and still can't figure out how to setup lilypad to work with dirge of cerberus. > PCSX2 Discussion and Support > General Discussion and Support (Windows) 12-27-2018, 06:50 AM. Hey guys, I'm running PCSX2 1. LilyPad is the most commonly used controller plugin for PCSX2. [Image: recodersignature2. Does it happen every time you enter my config screen, or just the first time between PCSX2 restarts? Here's a newer version with a bunch of bug fixes, mostly related to DirectInput and binding. ” Choose “LilyPad” from the “PAD” dropdown menu. › I am having some probs with my lilypad plugin. › PCSX2 News And Announcements Downloads. 0 and show pcsx2 lilypad settings with load bindings. 4: Adjusted RawAPI mode to work better with Lilypad's RawAPI keyboard capture. My other keyboard plugins that came with pcsx2 except lilypad crashed too ps- My specs Computer Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Edition OS Service Pack Service Pack 1 DirectX 4. 1 on Windows 7 and using LilyPad svn (r5822) 0. 0c) Computer Name ANORLDGOH-PC User Name Anorld goh Motherboard PCSX2: r4832 LilyPad: r4797 Game: God of War II NTSC-U This is the first time I actually play God of War II on a PC, and the first time by keyboard instead of a gamepad. Posts: 20. 5(the beta). Why Is My PCSX2 (06-29-2013, 03:48 PM) miseru99 Wrote: There's no modifier key here(a pity;p), but in lilypad you can set two keys, one with sensivity at 1. So, I spent all day getting my PCSX2 to work and it finally got to the PS2 start-up screen. Everything's working now. i really want to play this game so badly but i don't have ps2 controller. Or maybe even Lilypad settings that allows me to use a key at half-sensitivity or something. Posts: 63 Open PCSX2. It runs pretty fast (full speed with VU level 2) compared to 0. I read somewhere that Lilypad has keyboard support but it doesn't have a GUI interface so I was hoping I could edit a . It supports multiple devices of all types, and devices of different types can be mixed Keyboards / mice / DirectInput / XInput/ direct DualShock 3 connections are all supported. My mouse is the Tt eSports Theron. Tried setting some bindings up myself after readi. Ummm im new here but i need help do you have keybindings for keyboard. All I have right now is my keyboard. PC Specs: In the "configure" options of pcsx2 both controllers say lilypad and on the lilypad setup the pad 1 is my dualshock2 pad and the pad2 is my keyboard configuration (which is useless cause pcsx2 doesn't recognize it). 0 installation allows you to select the following PAD plugin: LilyPad v0. I would like to configure LilyPad to play with my PS3 controller, where could I configure my PS3 controller in Lilypad ? I only understand how to transform PS controller's controls to keyboard's controls , but I would like to do the opposite . But honestly it's not worth the trouble. 0 and all 3. be/h4b5OPGqZ7klink for how to setup pcsx2 con Download the latest Dev. . 1 General Tab Input APIs Keyboard -raw input Game device APIs - DirectInput, XInput, and Monitor when in So I'm using the Lilypad controller plugin, and I can't figure out how to set my keyboard settings. The Lilypad plugin is available to install on PCSX2 and works with LilyPad is a input plugin for PS2 emulators. 0 r-4959) 1) you do not have to use the ds3 input device as the base for your usblib driver. Anyway I've got the basics down I'm just having trouble binding multiple keyboard keys to one ps2 function, like binding cntrl+lmb to movement. gtgamer468. Configuring your keyboard to use as a controller can be done using Went ahead and cleared the . buttons will work. Also, you probably don't want to have your mouse X axis bound to a bunch of random controls. Then set a lower sensitivity for the analogue axis with lilypad key, you can even set a I recently downloaded PCSX2 emulator to try out backed up ISO image of Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Operation Ressurection, but I quite do not understand the LilyPad emulator controls. 09. Repeat for all keys you need to have pressure sensivity. 0/ folder for Lilypad. The c ontroller works with every other emulator for ps1, super nintendo etc fine. 5 or somewhat smaller. StriFe FF and Agarest Fan. How did you configure the buttons on the keyboard? Try using the Lilypad plugin if you're using something else and make sure both first and second controller plugins are the same. under GameDevice API choose Direct Input . Make sure the "keyboard API" is ticked to Windows Messaging like recommended afterward you need to bind the keys at the "Pad 1" tab before being able to use it. 8 lilypad keyboard+mouse bindings. I've got keyboard and a mouse And I was trying to do what some people suggested - use mouse as analog, but just cant seem to get it configured right (assuming it can actually work as an analog for Lulu's overdrive - not sure if only 4 directions on analog config are enough) but then I can't see my mouse at all, not even when in pcsx2 menu or configuration PCSX2 Site: Forums: Member List: View Today's Posts: Search. 82 Notes: In Lilypad diagnostics, it states "ignore keyboard" - i don't know how to change this (but have also tried mouse controls) Lilypad also erases all of the keybindings after I click OK. While we're at it, is there a way to bind key combinations to buttons? Due to the hard work of Rebel_X and ChickenLiver from the PCSX2 forums, we are proud to present LilyPad and TwinPad plugins, which both allow keyboard users to have full use of the analog sticks! I'm sure you will enjoy them as much as the forum users have. Not really sure how else I could word it really. 0), in plugin settings it is not showing WM keyboard option to configure the PS2 controller. The LilyPad interface used to map your Emulator PCSX2 digunakan untuk memainkan gim Playstation 2 di komputer. 6: Lots of Under the hood changes, Fixed console logging in PCSX2 1. 12. Now. That means there are some restrictions writing to the Documents folder And btw,creating that file makes your installer version portable so all savestates,memory cards and settings will be saved in the same pcsx2 folder If you really need to use two different pad plugins for some reason, and one is LilyPad, disable LilyPad's keyboard handling so that the F-keys, used to control the emulator, don't behave as if you always press them twice. It immediately logs either the lmb or the cntrl key in lilypad. Here's how to remap any KBM or controller input to the PCSX2 virtual controllers for pads 1 and 2. 0. cant even passed the first message where i choose language am i missing something? thanks I am trying to set up a keyboard/mouse control scheme (I use lilypad), which for the most part is pretty simple. Guitars. 7: WINE support, revert to . ini manually or something. its recognized as a keyboard (but with game controller settings when i right click it. Change you Keyboard API in lilypad to DirectInput or Raw Input and see. It supports multiple for keyboard plugins i have lilypad 0. Crashes due to EZFRD64. please someone help Whenever i use pcsx2 with this plugin, my pc doesnt accept anything from the keyboard after that till I uninstall the pcsx2 and restore. now another problem: the graphik show me a lot of black and white/ or black and white square instead of colorful graphic for example the hills inside the game Well, I feel silly. Hey guys - I'm having issues mapping my keyboard in Lilypad. png] Reply. But in PS2 when I fire up a game the camera spins. i managed to get the keyboard working with direct input. LilyPad is an input plugin that supports keyboard, mouse, Xbox 360, and third-party controllers. › PCSX2 Discussion and Support › General Discussion and Support Yes, what you want to do is possible. 0 (Player One). I looked up a couple of tutorials on Youtube but their options were a bit different (earlier versions of If your controller is generating keystrokes in concert with stuff readable through DirectInput, just disable LilyPad's keyboard support while binding (Or disable whatever program generates those keystrokes while binding). I need to access controller with my keyboard buttons. How do you do that using a keyboard. Member List; Help; Hello There, Guest! Login Register : Register: PCSX2 Site: Forums: Member List: View Today's Posts: Search PCSX2 Coder. Version and plug your controller before runing pcsx2 , use lily pad plugin (the only one working) . To use LilyPad with those, you'll have to rename the dll. Works. 17: 17: PCSX2 1. Is there an easy way to have both setting. goto LilyPad Configuration. 10. To make a pad work as a guitar in Guitar But i just spent hours which means all night trying to configure the lilypad game-settings to work on keyboard to work through a gamepad and no mater HOW many times i swapped around or tried to make the controls work on timesplitters 1 - Either ALMOST all the controls would work, Or the controller pad would refuse to move the menu-options cursor PCSX2 is primarily meant to be used with a gamepad, still is possible to use the keyboard. From that, you can create an ideal set of bindings on your keyboard to whatever is comfortable for you. I'm sure I can't be the only one who can't seem to get their hands on a Keyboards/Mice/DirectInput/XInput/direct DualShock 3 connections are all supported. i have a problem that the keyboard is not working on boot (doesnt matter if its in the menu or game) i chose the lilypad plugin and configured the contorls but its not working. ini for LilyPad. PCSX2 Forums ::. Hacks. Note that what I'm asking applies to most of the PS2 SOCOM games. LilyPad is an input plugin that supports Configuring your keyboard to use as a controller can be done using one of the main controller plugins available for the PCSX2, but you can use alternative plugins. dll Many third party/knock off controllers and adapters use a buggy driver known generally as "EZFRD64. 11, ssspsx pad plugin pressure mod 1. I'm using LilyPad 0. TRy changing the Input API for KeyBoard and Mouse. Use the Lilypad plugin which should be the default already. Go to the “Config” menu and select “Controllers (PAD) -> Plugin Settings. (11-01-2014, 06:08 PM) s. And it appears that I can only have one of them working at a time - either analog or digital sticks, not both. I do most of my initialization when PADInit() is called, which generally happens when PCSX2 starts, unless I'm not already set as the default pad plugin. Member List; Help; Hello There, Guest! Lilypad 0. What games you are trying to play and if you are playing them from ISO or DVD. 7 (VU level 3), but I have a small problem with the control. 0, Raw Input code clean-up v0. Here's how to set up keyboard controllers on PCSX2: Configure Controls Using LilyPad. Raw mode distinguishes between multiple keyboards/mice under XP/Vista, but does not support horizontal mouse wheels and won't distinguish between right/left control/shift/alt keys (and doesn't work under w2k and w9x). jvk bwln tunzs xmzqoi nboid mbixs tdyexnes xbxfgu qubg mhqv